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Photograph Showcase: Cool Grandpa Frank

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Francis Henry Duval, Vancouver, British Columbia, 1940

Oh.  My.

This is one of my absolute favorite photos of my great-grandfather.  It was captured by a street photographer in Vancouver, British Columbia in 1940.

I love it so much!

In fact, it is the very first photo I uploaded on Grandpa Duval’s profile in my Ancestry tree, many years ago.

But once again… I found a negative of this photo and scanned it.  I feel like I just struck gold!

(gold reference as a hat tip to great-grandpa and his parents who mined gold…)

Here is the version I used to have:

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And here they are side by side:

I feel like I’m bragging or something, but seriously, I’m just soooooooo delighted by every single negative I scan.  Amazing!!

 

 

Happy Thursday, I hope you find yourself an awesome negative very, very soon!  xoxo

 

 

ps – I was so delighted when the anesthesiologist offered to knock me out for my cataract surgery and I totally took him up on it!  My eye is healing up nicely and the best news of all – the spot they removed and biopsied (that I hadn’t mentioned before…) turned out to be completely harmless despite its aggressive persistence over the past 7 years.  Phew!  Once I finish healing up, it will be time to decide if/when to do the other eye.  I am currently a one-contact woman.  It’s a little bit weird, but awesome, to be able to see out of one eye without any type of exterior assistance.  And bonus, while I’m still healing, I have a touch of a shimmer in the upper right corner of my vision.  It feels like I have an angel following me everyone I go.  Haha!

 

 


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Ellis Album, Photo 16 – Dale & Jean Ellis

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Dale Huband Ellis & Edna Jean Stokes

Uncle Dale was born in 1922.  He lived to be 91, passing away in 2014.  Aunt Jean was born in 1927.  She lived to be 78, passing away in 2006.  Unfortunately, this photo is not labeled with a date.  I’m guessing the 1980s.  What do you think?

 

 

This photo comes from the seventh page of the album.  Here are pages six and seven to give context for this photo:

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This post is part of a series sharing this wonderful old family photo album.  You can learn more about the album here.  Living descendants of Dale & Jean, please feel free to contact me to obtain scans of the photos that contain living family members.  My email address is on the sidebar.  🙂

 


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Photograph Showcase: Grandpa with his Biplane

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Francis Henry Duval

I LOVE this photo of my great-grandfather!  One of the reasons I love it – aside from the off-the-charts cool factor – is that my brother looks just like Grandpa Duval in this photo.  I think he should recreate it as a fun gift for my mom.  😉

I’ve shared this photo before, but this new version comes from a negative and once again, this is a definite upgrade from the previous version:

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Francis Henry Duval by his airplane.

Don’t get me wrong, I was perfectly happy with the first version, but the new image has more detail and is larger, showing us more of the plane.  Swoon.

My mom has an entire box of negatives… file box sized.  I wonder how many more treasures are inside?

 

Happy Thursday, I hope you make a photo discovery today!  xoxo

 

 

 


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Ellis Album, Photos 12 & 13 – Uncle Dale & Aunt Jean

These two wonderful people are my GrandUncle Dale & GrandAunt Jean.  Dale is the son of my 2nd great-grandparents, Claude Albert Ellis & Blanche Octavia Huband.  Dale was a math teacher.  These pictures strike me as yearbook photos.  Do they have that feel for you?  I love the bow tie!

 

 

These photos come from the sixth page of the album.  Here are pages six and seven to give context for this photo:

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This post is part of a series sharing this wonderful old family photo album.  You can learn more about the album here.  Living descendants of Dale & Jean, please feel free to contact me to obtain scans of the photos that contain living family members.  My email address is on the sidebar.  🙂

 

 


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Photograph Showcase: Another Image Upgrade from a Negative ❤️

 

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Francis Cyprien Duval & Alice Hyde, 1903, Oakland, California

Isn’t this photo of my 2nd great-grandparents beautiful?

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It was in a small bundle of negatives my Mom left with me a few years ago.  I recently scanned it and was so delighted by the clarity of the image.  It’s not the original negative.  I believe it is a negative created by my great-grandfather, the son of this couple, by taking a photo of the original photo.  When I first worked with this image I was so happy to see a better version of a photo I already had.  But when I tried to find the “other” version I realized it was actually a different shot from the same photo shoot.  This is the photo I had before:

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Francis Cyprien & Alice Hyde DUVAL

Both are lovely.  But I am so happy with this new photo!

I spent a little time cleaning it up.  Here is the original scan of the negative:

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Happy Thursday, I hope you make a fantastic photo discovery this week!  xoxo

 

 

ps – I was scheduled to have cataract surgery today but it was moved to next week.  I’m nervous and excited.  Here’s hoping it goes well!  (I’m a big fat chicken, so it’s probably going to take A LOT of deep breaths for me to make it to the actual moment of surgery.)

 


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Ellis Album, Photo 11 – Uncle Dale

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Dale Huband Ellis

Dale Huband Ellis is my GrandUncle, son of my great-grandparents Claude Albert Ellis & Blanche Octavia Huband.  Dale was their second child and only son.  He seems so mild-mannered, doesn’t he?

 

 

This photo comes from the sixth page of the album.  I did not share photos six through ten as they contain living people.  Here are pages four and five, followed by pages six and seven to give context for this photo:

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This post is part of a series sharing this wonderful old family photo album.  You can learn more about the album here.  Living descendants of Darwin & Beth, or Dale & Jean, please feel free to contact me to obtain scans of the photos that contain living family members.  My email address is on the sidebar.  🙂

 


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A FamilySearch Profile Photo Experiment

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Last week, I wrote about a funny glitch I came across in FamilySearch.  See that image right up there?  The profile picture?  It’s not William Taylor, it’s James Lake.  Weirder still is that picture of James Lake isn’t anywhere in the memories tab for this William.  It seems to be the ghost of a photo no longer attached to William.  Well, that post prompted a Twitter conversation that led me to conduct an experiment with FamilySearch photos and profile pictures.

These were my questions:

  • Question 1 – Does FamilySearch automatically set a default profile picture for individuals in the tree?
  • Question 2 – If one user changes the profile picture for someone in the tree, does that change the profile picture for every user?
  • Question 3 – What happens to the profile picture if the photo used for the profile picture is deleted?
  • Question 4 – Have each of these things functioned consistently over time?

 

 

Experiment Phase One – Simple Comparisons

 

I selected a handful of my own ancestors whose profile photos I have personally changed at some point and compared their profile from the FamilySearch Tree app on my phone, to the profile as seen when logged in as my friend.*  The results were interestingly inconsistent.

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Here are the profile images of each person.  Images from my friend’s account on the left, from my account on the right (note – I double checked the website, logged in as me, and the images on the right from the app match what I see on the website):

 

Based on these results we can answer two of our questions.

 

Question 1 – Does FamilySearch automatically set a default profile picture for individuals in the tree?

YES!

 

Logged in as my friend, I looked at my relatives who my friend had never looked at before.  They all showed a profile picture if they had any photos in the memories tab.  (With one strange exception that we will discuss in more detail in my report on part two of my experiment.  But recently uploaded and deleted photos can cause a person to go from having a profile photo to not having a profile photo.)

 

Question 4 – Have each of these things functioned consistently over time?

NO!

 

Because there is such a wide variety in this set of simple comparisons, it appears that FamilySearch has had different default settings for profile pictures at different times.

 

Experiment Phase Two – Uploading and Deleting Photos

 

I selected a handful of family members who did not currently have any photos in the tree.  I uploaded and deleted photos from both my friend’s FamilySearch account and my own to see what happened to the profile photo.

These are the four photos I used in my experiment:

 

Let’s start with John Arthur Jerrain.

 

John is seen in the first and second photos.  Logged in as my friend, I uploaded photo 1 and tagged John in that photo.  What happened?

  • Photo 1 became the profile photo for John when logged in as my friend.
  • Photo 1 became the profile photo for John when logged in as me.
  • In the app, photo 1 shows on John’s memory tab, but he has no profile photo.  (Note – I did not click on the profile photo circle as I wanted to see if the app would add a photo by default.)

Still logged in as my friend, I uploaded photo 2 and tagged John, Emma, & Prude in that photo.  Yes, Prude.  His full name is Prudent Arthur Jerrain.  😉  What happened?

  • Photo 1 was still the profile photo for John when logged in as my friend.
  • Photo 1 was still the profile photo for John when logged in as me.
  • In the app, photo 1 and photo 2 show on John’s memory tab, but he has no profile photo.

Still logged in as my friend, I deleted photo 1.  What happened?

  • When logged in as my friend, John now showed only photo 2 in his memories tab and had no profile photo.
  • When logged in as me, John now showed only photo 2 in his memories tab and had no profile photo.
  • In the app, John now showed only photo 2 in his memories tab and had no profile photo.

Logged in as me, I uploaded photo 1 and tagged John in that photo.  I made the tag a much larger circle so that it could be differentiated from the tag created using my friend’s account.  What happened?

  • When logged in as me, John now showed both photo 1 and photo 2 in his memories tab.  Photo 1 with the larger circle was now his profile picture.
  • When logged in as my friend, John now showed both photo 1 and photo 2 in his memories tab but had no profile picture.
  • In the app, John now showed both photos and still has no profile photo.

 

Now let’s chat about Emma Esther Jerrain.

 

Emma is seen in the second photo.  Emma already had a few photos uploaded by me.  Logged in as my friend, I uploaded photo 2.  What happened?

  • Photo 2 became Emma’s profile photo when logged in as my friend.
  • Emma’s profile photo did not change to photo 2 when logged in as me.
  • In the app, Emma’s profile photo did not change to photo 2.

 

What about Prudent Arthur Jerrain & Jessie Cambell Shirkie?

 

Prudent can be seen in pictures 2, 3, and 4.  Jessie can be seen in picture 3 and 4.  Logged in as my friend, I uploaded photo 2 and tagged Prude in that photo.  What happened?

  • Photo 2 became Prude’s profile photo when logged in as my friend.
  • Photo 2 became Prude’s profile photo when logged in as me.
  • In the app, photo 2 was visible in Prude’s memories, but he did not have a profile photo.

Logged in as me, I uploaded photo 3 and tagged Prude and his wife Jessie Cambell Shirkie in that photo.  I did not tag their daughter Willow Eleanor, who is also seen in this photo, because I was planning to delete this picture and Willow was not part of my experiment.  What happened?

  • When logged in as me, Prude’s profile photo changed from picture 2 to picture 3.
  • When logged in as my friend, Prude’s profile photo is still picture 2, but picture 3 can be seen in his memories gallery.
  • In the app, both picture 2 and picture 3 can be seen, but Prude has no profile photo.

What happened for Jessie with the upload of photo 3?

  • When logged in as me, Jessie’s profile photo became photo 3.
  • When logged in as my friend, Jessie’s profile photo became photo 3.
  • In the app, photo 3 shows in Jessie’s memories tab, but she has no profile photo.

Logged in as me, I uploaded photo 4 and tagged Prude and Jessie in that photo.  What happened to Prude?

  • When logged in as me, Prude’s profile photo is still photo 3, but photos 2, 3, and 4 are all visible.
  • When logged in as my friend, Prude’s profile photo is still photo 2, but photos 2, 3, and 4 are in his memories gallery.
  • In the app, all three photos are visible, but he still has no profile photo.

What happened to Jessie?

  • When logged in as me, Jessie’s profile photo is still photo 3, but photo 4 is also in her memories gallery.
  • When logged in as my friend, Jessie’s profile photo is still photo 3, but photo 4 is also in her memories gallery.
  • In the app, photo 3 and 4 are visible, but she still has no profile photo.

Logged in as me, I deleted photo 3.  What happened to Prude?

  • When logged in as me, Prude’s profile photo changed back to photo 2.
  • When logged in as my friend, Prude’s profile photo is still photo 2.
  • In the app, photo 2 and 4 are visible, but he still has no profile photo.

What happened to Jessie?

  • When logged in as me, Jessie shows no profile photo, but photo 4 is visible in her memories gallery.
  • When logged in as my friend, Jessie shows no profile photo, but photo 4 is visible in her memories gallery.
  • In the app, photo 4 is visible, she still does not have a profile photo.

 

Interestingly, on the day I conducted this experiment, after a photo was deleted and a person “lost” their profile photo, in the couple box of that person and their spouse, the circle for the profile photo showed a broken photo link icon.  However, the next day, that icon was gone and the profile photo area is just empty despite there being a photo in that person’s gallery.

 

 

Conclusion

 

I started with four questions.  I was able to answer all four:

 

Question 1 – Does FamilySearch automatically set a default profile picture for individuals in the tree?

Yes!  It is the first photo uploaded for that person.  However, if a user adds a photo for the first time to a person who already has photos, the profile photo will change to the newly added photo for that user.

In the app, however, FamilySearch does not set a default profile photo.

 

Question 2 – If one user changes the profile picture for someone in the tree, does that change the profile picture for every user?

Yes and No.  This function has varied over time.

 

Question 3 – What happens to the profile picture if the photo used for the profile picture is deleted?

It appears that based on my original post, in the past, a ghost of the photo can still remain as the profile photo.  But now, when the photo is deleted, in most cases, the profile picture is blank until a user chooses a new profile photo.  In one instance, the profile photo reverted back to the first photo uploaded by a different user.  This function is inconsistent.

 

Question 4 – Have each of these things functioned consistently over time?

No!  FamilySearch has clearly made some changes to how profile photos are assigned.  Based on my experiment, I think they have changed things more than one time.

 

 

Thank you, Alberta Genealogical Society – @ABGenealogy – for prompting me to complete this experiment.  When I work with patrons at my local FamilySearch center and they ask a question about some quirk they have run into on FamilySearch I often say, “Well, it used to work this way, but let’s give it a look and see how it’s working now.”  FamilySearch makes changes regularly and just when you think you have it figured out, it’s different.

 

Thank you, FamilySearch for constantly working to improve all areas of your website.  You are awesome and you make the genealogy world so much better for everyone!!  (I’m especially loving how fast you are digitizing records and getting them in the catalog.  Amazing!!!!  ❤️)

 

 

Happy Monday, I hope it’s a wonderful genealogy week for everyone!  If you haven’t perused the FamilySeach catalog – do give it a look today!  You just might find a hidden treasure.  If you aren’t sure where the catalog is, read this post I wrote last yearxoxo

 

 

 

*I logged into my friend’s FamilySearch account, with her permission, to assist in my experiment.